about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels Before the divorce. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. , its woven through everything. And I was feeling very isolated. There is so much actionable knowledge in the tour of the ecosystem of our bodies that Kimberley Wilson takes us on this hour. Page 20. Before the koi were all eaten Its repeating words. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left. my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the . Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. Limn: Yeah. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Tippett: Yeah. So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. so mute its almost in another year. So is his love and study of the farmer-poet Wendell Berry, whose audiobook The Need to Be Whole Nick just recorded. But I do think youre a bit of a So the thing is, we have this phrase, old and wise. But the truth is that a lot of people just grow old, it doesnt necessarily come with it. Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume, . Wilkerson, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal, has become a leading figure in narrative nonfiction with The Warmth of Other Suns and Caste. Limn: Yeah. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. We believe healthy spiritual inquiry propels us outside the boundaries of the self, into the world. I love it. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. Its a prose poem. I mean, thats how we read. My familys all in California. Limn: I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. Why are all these blank spaces? It has silence built all around it. Tippett: As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. , and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. Limn: I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. I love that you do this. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. Limn: It is still the wind. its like staring into an original Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. We literally. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. of age. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Silence, which we dont get enough of. Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. It comes back to these questions of like, Why do I get to be lucky in this way? Nov 28, 2022. Bottlebrush trees attract The Pause. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. We honor poets and poetry as necessary companions in mustering words spacious and generous enough to reach across the mystery of ourselves and the mystery of each other. This is science that invites us to nourish the brains we need, young and old, to live in this world. Find them at fetzer.org. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. writes the word lover in a note and Im strangely, excited for the word lover to come back. and hand, the space between. No, to the rising tides. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. Page 87. Why dont you read The Quiet Machine? And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. And also Im so happy to be together with you in the old-fashioned flesh, which we no longer take for granted. Limn: Yeah. What. Yeah. This definitely speaks to that. "Beauty isn't all about just nice loveliness, like," O'Donohue tells Tippett. , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. I could be both an I You boiled it down. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. We live in a world in love with the form of words that is an opinion and the way with words that is an argument. when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long., And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. Krista Tippett founded and leads "The On Being Project," hosts the globally esteemed On Being public radio show and podcast, and curates the "Civil Conversat. We think time is always time. Yeah. On her show she promoted her new book, Einstein's God, and if the show is any indication, this new enterprise promises to be a fun fest for people inclined . Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. Suppose its easy to slip Tippett: Okay. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. Good, good. Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . two brains now. SHARE 'It's a hard time in the life of the world' a conversation with Krista Tippett. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. Theres whole books about how to breathe. We surface this as a companion for the frontiers we are all on just by virtue of being alive in this time. Tippett: It also says something about this time. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? And now Tippett has done it again. I mean, thats how we read. It is still the river. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call I remember writing this poem because I really love the word lover, and its a kind of polarizing word. Tippett: Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. And then it hits you or something you, like you touch a doorknob, and it reminds you of your mothers doorknob. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. Alice Parker is a wise and joyful thinker and writer on this truth, and has been a hero in the universe of choral music as a composer . From Feb 2: three months of soaring conversations to live and grow with with an eye towards emergence. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. Good conflict. Technology and vitality. Limn: Yeah. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. She founded and leads the On Being Project ( www.onbeing.org )a groundbreaking media and public life . Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. body. A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. the collar, constriction of living. [laughter] But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Tippett: The thesis. [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. 1. I love it that youre already thinking that. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Limn: Oh, definitely. How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? Tippett: I love that. We prioritize busyness. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. Yes I am. But I trust those moments. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. Limn: and you forget how to breathe. Tippett: I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. Poems all come to me differently. Youll see why in a minute. [laughter] But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. Nov 19, 2022, 8:00pm PST. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. I love it that youre already thinking that. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. [laughter]. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). And so much of what were seeing brings us back to intelligence that has always been in the very words we use gut instinct, for instance. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. Theres how I stand in the lawn, thats one way. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. And I think about that all the time. We want to orient towards that possibility. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book. To be swallowed And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Tippett: And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of On Being, its woven through everything. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. to pick with whoever is in charge. In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. All right. Yeah. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. We live the questions. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. The notion of frontier inner frontiers, outer frontiers weaves through this hour. So anyway, I got The Hurting Kind, the galley in the mail from Milkweed. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. Youre very young. We understand love as the most reliably transformative muscle of human wholeness, and we investigate the workings of love as public practice. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. for it again, the hazardous And its page six of The Hurting Kind. Tippett: Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. brought to its knees, clung to by someone who I really love . are your bones, and your bones are my bones, beneath us, and I was just Thats such a wonderful question. Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. Krista Tippett. I think I enjoy getting older. But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. into an expansion, a heat. And we all have this, our childhood stories. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. No, question marks. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. Tippett: And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. For her voice of insistent honesty and wholeness and wisdom and joyfulness. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. Tippett: Right. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. The On Being Project Copyright 2023. We journalists, she wrote, "can summon outrage in five words or Between unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. Limn: I love it. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. What. This might be hard for some of you right here. Ada Limn. some new constellations. In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. On Being is an hour-long radio show and podcast, hosted by Krista Tippett. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? In me. no one has been writing the year lately. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? Only my head is for you. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. You should take a nap.. [audience laughs] And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. Thank you all for coming. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. 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